Response to Vinay - reg. stray dogs & Vinay's response
By just calling some number, you expect someone else to do all this
for you? Even if you are willing to pay, that does not mean
much – the treatment of an injured stray dog does not end with admitting
it into the hospital and paying Rs.5000/-. Will you come and pick
it up when it is well, and release it back into the locality? How
much can the hospital do? And why should they do it? You got the
animal in, it's your responsibility to take it out also. And whom
do they call if the animal dies? Are you willing to then get the
A list of NGO's /organizations doing the job can be compiled, and
is there in Karmayog, but is that going to help? We know they can't
reach out to all the calls that come, and whatever they are doing
is already extra.
I don't see MCGM doing much because for them the work of MCGM is
just a job – they don't care about the dogs at all. When I visit
the animal hospitals to admit animals, I am often afraid for the
animals – do the ward boys and other staff who work there care for
them, or is it just a job for them?
Vinay, you visit the Parel Hospital and see the animals there –
their state is pathetic – but it's the best we have in Bombay, so
what do we do?
3) Citizen in distress:
Again, it is the citizen's problem, not the stray dogs' – the animal
Ngo's are totally out of this loop – they are not here to attend
to citizen's problems – it is a local issue – the citizens must
tackle it locally – understand the situation, look for a solution,
and do it themselves. If garbage is the problem, as in garbage attracting
the strays, get the street clean. If dogs need to be sterilized,
get the job done, through MCGM, or by paying for the services of
an NGO. There are several vets in the city, who will do the sterilization
operation for cats and dogs at nominal cost for strays – the citizens
have to take the trouble to befriend the animal, take it to the
vet, get the operation done, and treat it for post-op.
If you care enough, you will do it – but most people are just bothered
by it, and want it out of their sight.
Again by calling a help-line, the problem cannot be tackled. It
will be just temporarily shifted somewhere else.
MCGM shirking its work
One way for MCGM to get going is to have a separate department to
tackle the stray dogs – with budgets and man-power – they will hire
the requisite people, they will arrange for the necessary space
themselves – agreed MCGM has said they can't do, they don't know,
etc, but they have the money to get it done. This may be better
than out-sourcing to the existing NGO's and creating new NGO's –
let the final blame still be with MCGM – at present, MCGM is doing
nothing, animal NGO's are struggling, and everyone is saying how
bad the situation is. MCGM is responsible – even if NGO's are doing
extra work. If MCGM says it can't do the work, that is obviously
incorrect – hire the people to do it – if there is no money even
that can be
MCGM is also capitalizing on the pro and anti dog stance that exists
– on garbage it is clear, no one wants garbage, so they will get
going on that one. The support for quick-fix "cheaper"
solutions from the anti-stray dog lobby is what MCGM is playing
1) participating in the process
regarding the "pets are the problem" email. I have a pet
cat – she was a stray, we adopted her 11 years ago – she has her
own toilet in our flat – which she uses. But she still loves to
go down to the garden and feel the grass below her feet, and roll
in the mud, and smell exciting things in the bushes. Some people
in my building take objection to her using the garden, so my mom
usually takes her at the crack of dawn, when not many people are
about, and she also takes this "pooper-scooper" that we
have, to scoop up any of her droppings.
Sure there are stupid pet owners around, who will not clean up after
their pets, but then there are also stupid people around who spit
in public, and litter, etc.
Basically to talk to unwilling people is like me being a vegetarian
and trying to convert a non-veg to it –
I'm happy with the way I am, if that person sees differently, that's
his problem. I feel this is why the animal NGO's have not come in
to participate: they have a clear ideology and path, which defies
logic (you said yourself, how can someone have this much compassion?)
– they are doing their work – there is no reward but the work itself
– the rest of the world can support them, or not – they will continue
with the work.
Another point: the reason why there are 2 polarised groups regarding
dogs and not many related groups like for cleanliness, is that there
is no profit making or business opportunities in this venture. Unlike
in Cleanliness, where companies even have a business interest, there
is no such factor in the case of stray dogs. It is compassion versus
[Well said. I do, however, disagree with the following:
a) "If you care enough, you will find out the numbers and names."
That logic and attitude defies me. It is the government's duty to
ensure that info is available as easily as possible. I should not
have to run pillar to post, or waste a lot of time to find out info.
Especially when it is common standard info that is needed by lots
and lots of people.
b) "You got the animal in, it's your responsibility to take
it out also." I don't think so. That way, who will help a (non-dog)
c) "it is the citizen's problem, not the stray dogs' "
- yes, but the way some of them will tackle it / are trying to tackle
it will harm the stray dog cause.
d) "If you care enough, you will do it" - that's ok in
theory, not a wrong expectation in reality. I should not have to
care 'enough' based on someone else's definition of 'enough'. I
want the govt / system to perform.
e) "if that person sees differently, that's his problem"
- unfortunately, it can also become your problem. The veg- non-veg
example is not a good one unless it offends you religiously if a
close family member is not veg. In the case of animals, as an animal-lover,
you certainly do not want to see the person being able to force
a wrong and bad solution. The assumption that
the current High Court order will protect stray dogs for ever is
a myth. It is better if animal-lovers wake up and look at both sides
of the coin. Five more deaths of kids and you can be sure that the
H C order will go for a toss.
f) "why there are 2 polarised groups regarding dogs" -
there aren't only 2 polarised groups. That is an obsession with
animal-lovers (or those of them) who see the world that way.
g) " It is compassion versus indifference/selfishness"
-- i daresay that it is the animal lovers who are not being compassionate
and are indeed harming the cause of animals by not accepting that
situations of menacing dogs do need to be tackled. It does not mean
that the dogs have to be killed.
I do hope that you and others in the group will respond. Sensitisation
is important -- both ways.
Dec 5, 2005