Also see Stray
Dogs - Recommendations to Municipal Corporations
Pro-killing stray dog responses
Pro-stray dog responses e.g. sterilisation,
Committees for stray dogs
Gandhiji's writings on the stray
dog issue, in his paper Young India
Animal Birth Control responsible
for decline in human rabies cases
WHO technical report on
rabies Seris931-part1 (PDF file)
22: Tues - meeting reg. stray dogs
Organisations - Dogs
Dog Control Rules, 2001
Population Management & Canine Rabies Control
MRTI probe into stray dog control issue
Sep 1: two children killed
by stray dogs
Stree Mukti Sanghtana
31 Shramik,Royal crest, L.T. V. Rd. Dadar (East), mumbai 400014
Tel. 55745848, 24174381
Recently two children were killed by stray dogs near Deonar Dumping
has expressed its inability to take any action in this matter. Stree
Sanghatana has organised a meeting of citizens to discuss this burning
1st september 2005 at 5 p.m. at the above address. All are cordially
Stree Mukti Sanghatana
response 1: stray dogs
lovers feed the stray dogs in the compound/vicinity. This has
to be stopped first. The stray Dogs stay because they know that
they can get food very easily. If animal lovers want to feed
then they must keep dogs in their house.
female dogs should not be allowed to produce by removing their
uterus. The birth control measures have to be followed strictly
must be summoned and the stray dogs have to be lifted without
any hindrance from animal lovers. Each time BMC catch, these
people approach them to bring back the Dogs captured by them.
Thanks and best regards
Anthony D’ Souza
response 2: I TOO WAS
THE VICTIM - MAULED BY A DOG, BUT SURVIVED.
As I am unable to attending
working, hence giving my candid views, as I too suffered the same
fate, only I did not die.
About 2 years ago, my
office just behind Chooti Durgha, Near Paramount Resturant, Mahim
West, I had just arrived outside the small lane adjacenet to Chhoti
Durga. when I felt some scratching on my legs, those days I use
to wear dresses, a minute later I screamed with pain, a stray
dog had bitten me, not once but 3 bites on one leg and not releasing
my leg. I in a dazed fashion, suffering from shock, I screamed
my lungs out, I saw a piece of my torn flesh on the ground. Would
you believe, none helped only looked. Time was 9 am weekday.
Finally a male colleague heard my hysterical crying, heard
across the road 2 blocks away, God bless his soul,
is no more and two three motor mechanics near adjacent garage
picked me up and took me to Hinduja Hospital, telling me, don't
worry you are like our sister, we are there to help you. I
was given an injection. and told to lie down. The dog had missed
my vein by 1/4 inch, they told me I was lucky to be alive, but
I was bleeding till 3 am next morning. with a large bucket ful
of blood soaked tissues.
Since this dog was really
bad , maybe rabied type, I developed pus in my leg which
flowed heavily for 10 days, and initially my family doctor
told me, If it does not heal, we may have to amputate your leg.
I prayed, lord how can i come to work while traveling in bus and
train to reach my work place, Fortunately my leg was spared. My
office people had complained to BMC, nothing much done. Few days
later, one child was bitten and then one of my senior boss's daughter,
was the next victim. People told me do not wear dresses, when
these mad dogs see any human flesh in the monsoon, when they are
in heat, they bite, hence now completely swtiched over to sulvar
kameez, thanks to the dog, who dictated what I could wear to work,
even if it's pouring heavily.
BMC needs to clear Metro
of strays, as most of them could be rabied type, and innocent
lives can be saved.
You won't believe I
spent a whopping Rs. 7,000/- towards medical treatment , Doctors
fees for dressing in 10 days at home, going on Sick leave. Fortunately
I got most of the amount reimbursed.
Thank you for allowing
me to speak my mind in your forum.
Ms Shirin Chaina
response 3: stray mukti
vs. stree mukti --- stray dogs
The action regarding
the said matter lies with BMC only and they cannot run
away from same.There is an absolute need to control the no. of
stray dogs as
they are getting harmful for mankind in mumbai and BMC has to
steps to control them. It's their duty in regards to welfare of
my view serious steps need to be taken by BMC to eliminate old,
dogs completely as well stop reproduction in dogs. Any thing in
toxic and to maintain the ecosystem balance, we have to take these
steps to prevent society from increasing dog accidents before
There is nothing inhuman in this or against animals welfare.
Cell :932480 5505
response 4: stray dogs
Let me know how can
I help? I find the laws ridiculous, where animal rights are deemed
more important than children's safety.
Can we do something? What's the solution?
response 5: Stray dogs
The general environmental
issues affecting the residents of area copntiguous to the Deonar
dumping Ground has been a long standing issue without any positive
governmental a responsive corrective action.
The fact that the lackadaiscial attoitude of the authorities has
now led to the sad demise of two children only highlights the
enormity of derelection of their duty and sheer callousness of
the authorities towards their own moral and ethical srtandards.
added to this must be an apparent fact that the children must
be some of those rag pickers and not the darling siblings of any
of these highbrow scums.
It is time that organisations like your and karmayog and PUCL
agitate to ensure that the Corporators of the affected Area are
made answerable if not accountable.
Thanks for offering me a chance to react.
response 6: children killed
by street dogs
It was terrible hearing about
the children. While I would like further details before I can make
any specific comment, I can only say that all of us who are interested
in finding a solution to the issue of street dogs must be aware
of certain facts.
One: the killing of dogs on the street has been going on for over
a hundred years. In Chennai, for example, first records of dogs
being killed (usually shot by the Collector or the Chief of Police)
goes back to 1860.
Two: If the reason for this is to control either the number of dogs
on the street or the incidence of rabies in humans, it has been
a spectacular failure since both have shown a steady rise in spite
of greater numbers of dogs being killed each year.
Three: Whereever the killing of dogs have stopped and replaced with
a proper sterilize-vaccinate-and-release programme, the incidence
of rabies and the number of dogs on the street have shown a decline.
In Chennai, the killing stopped completely on a city-wide basis
in Sept 1996. From a high of 120 rabies deaths in 1996, the number
of deaths has come down to FIVE in 2003. Results in Jaipur, Kalimpong,
Vizag, Bangalore and other places where there is an ABC programme
in place show similar results.
The attached paper will give more details.
With warm regards.
Dr. S. Chinny Krishna
response 7: children and
IT IS SAD TO READ OF
THIS INCIDENT, BUT IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME SUCH A THING HAS HAPPENED.
THE DOG MENACE HAS INCREASED IN ALL ASPECTS. RABIES,
LEPTOPYROSIS ETC. EVEN THE GAS SUPPLIERS, POSTMEN, GUESTS &
FRIENDS REFUSE TO ENTER AREAS WHERE THERE ARE A PACK OF DOGS.
I DREAD TO WALK TOO, AROUND A PACK OF DOGS. ONCE BITTEN - TWICE
THE STRAY DOGS HAVE REALLY BECOME A THREAT, BUT THE ANIMAL RIGHTS
ACTIVISTS WILL DO NOTHING MUCH ABOUT IT.
OF COURSE, THERE ARE CASES WHERE HUMAN BEINGS ALSO ILL TREAT ANIMALS
IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY.
THE ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVITY GROUPS FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT OF THE ANIMALS,
BUT RARELY COME IN SUPPORT OF HUMAN RIGHTS. I AM RIGHT - YOU ARE
WRONG IS THE END OF IT ALL.
THAT I RECKON IS THE CYCLE OF "STEP INTO MY BOOTS".
Response 8: stray dogs
- lose-lose situation
Killing of animals is
banned by law. The ban was implemented owing to the inhumane way
in which animals were being killed. This is an important issue,
the ban however fails to achieve the objective of humane treatment
of animals. Only yesterday, I saw a car run over a small pup,
seriously injuring it. The animal has been limping around in pain
since then. This happens all the time. All strays are diseased
Meanwhile the strays
cause a health hazard and traffic hazard and cause human suffering
and, in this extreme case, even death.
The proposed solution,
animal birth control methods, is unviable due to the fact that
(a) all civic authorities are basically incapable of doing anything*
(b) the problem to be dealt with is huge.
Thus we have a lose-lose
situation, usually the result of all Indian legislation.
1) Repeal the law
2) City to set-up a
dog-catcher certification course in consultation with animal NGOs
- this course should provide the equipment and brief training
to anyone who wishes to catch dogs. [what should this course contain?
i am not an expert, here's one idea. use blowguns, like those
used by s.american indians, with darts tipped with a sedative.
blowguns and darts should be cheap, sedatives may have to be provided
by govt.]. the course should have a fee.
3) Pay certified dog-catchers
for every dog caught alive. no reward for dead/injured dogs.
4) Dogs remain in civic
dog-pound for a certain period of time. IF any NGO wants to save
the animals or perform birth control procedure on it, they have
to buy the dogs from the city and do the needful. All dogs in
dog-pound after a certain time period (1 week?) will be destroyed
using a barbiturate injection/dart.
Thinking behind this
No point in expecting
corporation to do something that they clearly can't. By "out-sourcing"
the dog-catching part, there is a chance it might work. NGOs should
be given a chance to "do the right thing" and save an
animal from death BUT if they are unable to handle the load, then
you ensure that people dont suffer and the dog dies. NGO can use
this as a strong message to animal lovers "help us with funds
and/or your time, else an animal dies. simple!"
I am trying to think
of all ways in which people and authorities will try and subvert
the system. NGOs will have to keep an eye on civic authorities.
Demand that they keep records and publish them. Keep the price
of the course and the reward such that a person/org can make a
decent amount of money but not too much (to prevent someone from
trucking in dogs from somewhere just to collect a reward). animals
on which birth control surgery is performed should be marked with
fluorescent dye. obviously no reward for catching it. (use a somewhat
expensive and hard to get dye, to prevent people from "saving
dogs" by marking them).
* note on civic authorities
when we complained about
strays in our area, we were asked if it was okay to poison the
dogs. when asked how they would do this, they said that they would
leave poison pellets (pedhe) in the vicinity. this shows that
(a) they are quite willing to break the law (2) they seemed quite
unconcerned about kids eating the poison by mistake.
when we opted for them
to capture the dogs instead, we were first asked for money (albeit
quite gently). we suggested a reward for each dog captured. one
man in chappals and about 3-feet of rope proceeded to try
and catch the dogs. as you can imagine, this was a laughable display.
at the end of about an hour he finally captured one old dog after
a struggle. it was a minor miracle that he didnt get bitten.
there are three things
needed to be able to do a job well (at least)
no prizes for guessing
which of these they possess.
response 9- dogs also
have the right to live
God has given right to
live, produce childs to every living species.
We have no rights to kill or sterlize any one without its permission.
so sterilization of dogs is a crime.
and if any one is dying due to dogs, it may be the wish of GOD.
response 10: stray dogs
- from ex-hospital manager of Bombay SPCA
I was the hospital manager
of the Bombay SPCA including the BSDP Hospital for Animals, Parel,
Mumbai for almost 10 years. It was during that time that the Animal
Birth Control/Anti-Rabies (ABC/AR) program was started in Mumbai.
>From the very beginning, we had maintained that the biggest
cause of stray dog problem in Mumbai was the heaps and heaps of
uncleared garbage that is found in every street in this city. This
garbage provides food for not only stray dogs but also stray cats,
rats and pigs, thus spreading disease and also causing the conflict
between stray dogs and people.
The BMC has to put a stop to this and ensure that people who are
found littering the streets are heavily fined, thus ensuring that
they do not do so in future.
Also, the ABC/AR program, if it is to succeed, has to be greatly
increased, to keep abreast with the number of births that are taking
I would like to hear comments on this.
response 11: stray dogs
- end-point to be decided by nature or mankind?
Here are my views. An acquantaince
whom I knew was very actively involved in sterilising dogs in 2002-2004.
He said since the dogs will end up giving birth sooner or later,
the tribe of strays will increase, and too many of these strays
have no food to eat, they end up fighting and killing one another,
hence to put an end to it we can sterilise them. I was not in favor
of that move and didn't join that cause. I have no idea how successful
their cause was. I did not keep track of it.
But what I do wonder now is- isn't there any other solution to this
problem? Yes strays do cause menace and children getting killed
by them is horrific but at the same time who are we to disrupt nature's
balance? By making sure that they don't reproduce, aren't we going
against the laws of nature? Can we think of any other solutions?
response 12: stray dogs
- human, enviro & animal rights experts needed
I am referring to the case of the children killed by stray dogs
at the Deonar dumping grounds. As a mother of a child I can thoroughly
and truly feel the anguish that the children have gone through.
I pray that no child or adult has to face this destiny ever.
However I must also congratulate Stree Mukti Sanghtana on taking
up this issue and addressing it with the public. It is no doubt
the most important issue to be addressesd as on today. I will hope
that as a fair and just NGO they will take into account all the
sides of the issue, like why two children as young as them had to
be in a dumping ground in the first place, whether we have any social
responsibility towards that end, why there are stray dogs roaming
that area, since strays will not find any garbage dump interesting
if vermiculture is practised there, and why the dumping ground is
open to people and animals alike. I also hope they will have
on the panel,human, environment and animal rights experts together.
Because the absence of any one of them would leave the discussion
And then when this issue is dealt with, and all stray dogs have
been verbally sent to the gallows, I will hope Stree Mukti Sanghtana
will also call for city wide stirs against rampant truck driving
which has squashed a 3 year old baby girl yesterday at Mira Road
and the police came only after the SP was contacted, the Municipality
showed up only 5 and a half hours after the incident, and the issues
of young girls being abducted in broad daylight, and deaths of street
children by starving..the death list by accidents is endless, but
unlike the stray dog incident which is a "stray" incident,
these are happening daily everywhere.
I wish the meeting to be a success.
For Thane SPCA
response 13: stray dogs - was it really due to them?
As soon as we come to
know about the dog bite incident, we send out team over there &
we investigated this matter & we did not find a substantial
fact of Dog bite to the children. Out Ambulance went there &
have picked up 14 dogs for sterilization.
Please note that, as soon as this incident reported to Vice President
of IN DEFENCE OF ANIMALS, Ms. Fizzah Shah; immediately all the 14
Stray Dogs from Deonar Dumping Ground area have been sterilized
at IDAâ€™s Dog Center & they
have been vaccinated against Rabies Virus.
Fizzah Shah: Vice President: IDA
response 14: Stray Dogs
It has been interesting to
read the regular mails about the stray dog issue on karmayog over
the last few months. I for one am definitely better informed about
this pressing civic problem than I used to be. However I do feel
there is a general tendency to react emotionally rather than rationally
on this subject.
The latest development, of a citizens' meeting to discuss the problem,
prompted me to write this message. Any normal human being
must feel outrage and horror at the tragic death of children caused
by stray dogs. However, in the inevitable search for a scapegoat,
responsible citizens should not overlook the extent to which
each of us is to blame. Since dogs eat garbage, large amounts of
garbage quite simply translates into larger numbers of dogs.
Moreover most social workers will have noticed that people living
in slums often encourage stray dogs by keeping them as pets. If
we, as socially conscious citizens of Mumbai, consent to the proliferation
of garbage and slums, we are responsible for creating the huge stray
dog population as well. Moreover the BMC declaring its helplessness
is simply not acceptable, particularly as the BMC actually added
to the garbage in this case by leaving cattle carcasses at the site.
Some years ago, when the Thane Municipal Corporation was regularly
killing stray dogs by poisoning, a little boy was mauled and almost
killed by a pack of stray dogs. I am glad to read mails today about
the Thane Municipal Corporation having high targets for sterilising
stray dogs. Perhaps they should offer their insight to the BMC and
concerned citizens so a permanent solution can be found.
response 15: stray dogs
I am a 17 year old, college going student . I am an animal-lover
and regularly interact with stray dogs.
Till date i have never been bitten. All the street dogs in my area
have been sterilised and none of them cause any harm or nuisance.
Coming to the issue of the incident where some dogs attacked humans,
I think if the former had been sterilised, this incident would not
have taken place.
Thus I feel that sterilisation is the key to such issues.
Response 16: Stray Dogs
- here's a detailed FAQ
Please accept my deepest
concerns for the safety of citizens from stray dogs attacks. The
issue has many angles to take into concern. Hence I have put together
a number of frequently asked questions. I hope they will shed some
light on the solution to the problem. It is vast and complex and
needs everyone's involvement and co-operation. The biggest help
in this case will actually be the dog himself. Not the ones that
attack and bite humans. But the ones that are devoted and give their
life for us, the ones that gave the term "Man's best friend."
I live in Hyderabad and
will not be able to participate - hence the attachment as a contribution.
There are many animal welfare groups on Mumbai who can help.
With sincere regards
FAQ’s about strays……….
By Amala Akkineni
Blue Cross of Hyderabad
Some frequently sparked
questions about stray dogs:
It is common for
people to demand frantic explanations concerning their trauma
with stray animals. “ What are you doing about the stray dogs?”
or “What are you doing about the monkeys?” or “I hate the way
you are helping those wretched creatures – the dogs- they don’t
let me sleep at night! Why don’t you help people instead?”
I sympathies that stray animals can pose threat to people
and it is important we know how to deal with them. So I have rephrased
the questions into more appropriate ones dealing specifically
with the problems in the hope that readers will be wiser in their
efforts to interact with strays. Alone nothing can be done, but
together we can do something constructive to create safe and healthy
communities. Please read on….
(Forgive the repetitions
that are essential to get the point across.)
Q1. Two Children
were killed by street dogs. Don’t you think it is time that all
the dogs were rounded up and destroyed humanely for the safety
of human beings?
Ans: If that was a solution
it would have been done and completed by now and there would be
no street dogs. But it does not work , never has and never will,
because we have external garbage disposal. Kill the local dogs
and new ones will appear within days. The new ones cause more
threat because they do not know you, could be aggressive, rabid,
roam in packs and attack. The familiar community dogs however,
if made safe and docile through screening, sterilization and vaccination,
make the community safe by keeping out new dogs from entering.
They are very territorial by nature. The World Health Organization
, UN, recommends this and where ever it has been implemented it
has worked wonders. The community dogs become an asset to the
community and provide Rabies free zones. But wherever killing
has been resorted to the dog attacks and bites grow in number
and Rabies is still rampant. Humane destruction is necessary,
but only for the dogs that attack and bite or show aggression.
The others need to be protected to protect the community.
Q2. I can’t sleep
at night. The dogs bark and no one seems to do anything when I
complain. What are you doing about the dogs?
Ans: A more appropriate
question would be “What can you do?” That’s the perfect question
because the truth is that if you can’t sleep, no one else will
be concerned except you. So here is what you can do: Firstly you
must have the entire locality cleared of garbage. Garbage breeds
strays. Remove the garbage and they automatically migrate elsewhere
for food. Then you need to find out if the dogs barking at night
are street dogs or pet dogs. The loudest, throaty barks come from
large breeds like German shepherds. The guarding pets usually
start off the barking and their little street cousins join in
to deter sinister intruders at night. They
are actually doing a very important job in your neighborhood.
If it’s someone’s pet then there is nothing you can do.
However, you can get yourself a pair of sponge ear plugs like
the one’s on the airlines. They do a marvelous job of shutting
out any disturbing sounds and give you a good night’s sleep as
well- dogs or no dogs!
Q3. There are a
number of dogs roaming on my street. Some seem to be having litters
of puppies. I am concerned that they are multiplying and will
overpopulate and cause severe problems later on. What can I do?
Ans: Good question. Firstly
clear all the garbage. People often deny garbage when I say this
but truth is there has to be garbage if there are strays. Look
for hidden dumps in empty plots, or someone feeding them. Then,
try to befriend them. The most difficult thing is to catch a stray
dog. They can tell well before and run away to hide when the dog
van arrives. By befriending them- placing food out regularly etc-
you gain their confidence and have a certain idea about how many
dogs there are, where they hang out, what is the temperament,
what condition they are in, etc. If you can’t do it get someone
like a gardener or watch man to do this. Thereafter you need to
call the MCH dog pound and request for them to catch, sterilize
and vaccinate the dogs. If they are too busy, request them to
send the dogs to Blue Cross for the procedure. Once sterilized
and vaccinated the dogs will form a stable population and a Rabies
free zone posing no threat to your community. The puppies can
be sent along with the mother to Blue Cross and put into our adoption
programme. One may be misled to think that the dogs can be taken
away somewhere else to solve the problem. This is impossible for
new dogs arrive within days and take their place posing worse
threat then the familiar ones.
Q4. I don’t want
the dogs on the street. They should be locked up somewhere for
the rest of their lives. What are you doing about this?
Ans: We are not planning
anything of the sort because it is not practical at all. Allow
me to inform you that the number of dogs in your street is directly
proportionate to the garbage. Remove one lot of dogs and a new
lot will arrive in days! If your solution was feasible there would
be no stray animals. Yet after killing and removing dogs for decades
all over India, we still have stray animals. The newly arrived
dogs have no affection for the community- they could attack, bite
and even carry rabies. This is also why there are increasing numbers
of bites and dogs attacks- everyday there are people getting bitten
despite the killing! So whether you like it or not it is better
to have a safe friendly population of community dogs on the street
that will protect the community from new maybe dangerous dogs
from entering. We do sterilize and vaccinate stray dogs and cats
for a fee if you wish to bring your locality dogs to us for the
procedure. But the community has to take responsibility for their
local dogs first.
Q5. The MCH never
answer my complaints. They say you are not letting them remove
the dogs. Why are you interfering?
Ans: Yes, I too wonder
why they give you that impression. If you pay Municipal taxes
then you deserve their service. However perhaps you complaint
was vague or unreasonable. Did you complain that the dogs are
barking at night? If so, what do you expect MCH to do? Please
get yourself a pair of ear plugs and sleep well. Or did you complain
that you did not want dogs on the street? If so, again there is
nothing anyone can do. Remove the existing dogs and you will have
a new lot within a few days because of the garbage. The new ones
are more vicious and aggressive then the earlier ones because
they do not have any regard for the community. Or did you complain
that the dogs are biting? Well if you did and they gave you the
lame answer that we are not allowing them to do anything- then
you should have noted down the name of the employee and sent it
with an official complaint letter to the MCH Commissioner immediately.
It is the duty of the dog squad to remove any animal that is aggressive
and a threat to the community. If they refuse to do so they must
be reported to senior authorities.
are a pack of large dogs that are very vicious and frightening,
that follow me on my evening walk. What can I do? I do not want
them hurt or killed.
Ans: That is very considerate
of you. But your concern may be misplaced. For the sake of a few
aggressive dogs the entire human and dog community can be at threat.
You must call the MCH dog pound and complain. The threatening
dogs must be removed and destroyed humanely. When a dog starts
biting or chasing, the local people complain about all the dogs
in fear and the entire lot are removed and killed. They do not
realize that new dogs will soon take their place posing more threat.
The key is to get involved and ensure that only the aggressive
ones, or the culprit is caught and removed. If you simply leave
it to the dog catchers they will catch and remove the gentle friendly
ones instead for the sake of answering the complaint. Are you
willing to stand by and show them the dogs and help them catch
the ones causing harm? If you do this your community can be safe
stray animal problems in the community here are a few important
all garbage cleared regularly. Garbage breeds strays.
to befriend the local strays to enable them to be caught, sterilized
safe population of friendly community dogs will not allow new
dogs to enter the area that could carry rabies.
any dog that is attacking, biting or showing aggression. Humane
destruction is necessary, but only for these dogs. The others
need to be protected to protect the community.
community volunteer can keep an eye on the general health of
the local dogs, repeating the anti rabies vaccinations annually.
Blue Cross can help you with this.
Blue Cross for advice. If you seek our help, we can help provided
you are willing to take the responsibility.
Important phone numbers:
Blue Cross of Hyderabad:
MCH Dog Pound: 24617017
21, Rd.# 8 Banjara Hills
Ms.Sunita: 55667707 Or
Tel: 924687 5040 for enquiries / booking class
response 17: Stray Dog
Incident in Mumbai
I live in Bangalore not Mumbai
but the problems faced with stray dogs are universal. We have several
stray dogs in our area and they hang out in vacant lots where
a lot of waste and rubbish has accumulated. I do think the issue
of waste disposal and sterilisation has to be simultaneously handled
by the responsible authorities to get rid of the menace.
While we are are on this subject, I wish animal lovers wouldn't
get overemotional on this issue. While I am all for animal rights,
definitely want the right for my children and me to be able to walk
freely on the streets without being bitten or mauled by a rabid
I also wish dog owners would put their dogs on leashes while taking
them for a walk and not allow them to roam around freely. I do like
dogs but from a distance!
response 18: stray dogs
Yes, Sterilised dogs
become less aggressive.
Response 19: stray dogs
- My support, my ideas
Namashkaar to all Karmayog
I'm a development professional currently working with a Government
Department in Chhattisgarh. I've been a member of Karmayog since
past 5 months or so. Though i've never worked in Mumbai, i like
reading the responses and feel impressed by the kind of enthusiasm
the members show in addressing social and developmental issues.
Upon the stray dog issue, I feel solutions are much above the level
in which the municipal corporations usually think on. Well, I, being
an animal-lover myself, have always felt strongly upon the fact
that these Indian stray dogs are really intelligent and smart, apart
from being affectionate and extremely loyal. The poor creatures
are always seen as a source of menace and their innate appreciable
characteristics are never considered.
People would rather feel proud moving around with a lap pomerian
or daschund than any of our local ones. While I can bet our local
ones are any day at par with the Videshi Boxers or Alsatians in
being watch-dogs. Moreover, they look much better (when healthy)!!
And what's better than the fact that they can survive all the worse
conditions of Indian living. The Indian police also must seriously
consider including them in their team of search dogs. training them
would certainly make them more useful.
well, i dont know if my mail sounds amusing, but I have conviction
in saying that they are not just 'menace', but of serious use and
very much a part of our lives.
Thanks for reading. I welcome honest remarks on this.
response 20: Stray Dogs
- perspective of an American in Mumbai
I am impressed with the
recent few emails regarding this issue. they are very well informed
and give very accurate information about the dog situation.
Unfortunately though, there are a lot of people out there that pass
on age old stereotypes and misinformation regarding strays and why
they exist and why they act as they do. We must each do our
part to educate ourselves and spread that on through our family
Disclosure: I am an animal
lover and I am "one of those" that feeds stray dogs/cats
in my area. I am also a foreigner living here and have a much
different perspective on the state of affairs here and how PEOPLE,
not organizations can go about making small changes on a daily basis.
The real issues thati
think that need to be addressed are:
1. Sterilizing all dogs/cats
as soon as possible, from a government level, not just NGO level,
and also initiated from a local resident level.
people's religious views against sterilization or interfering in
mother nature, but if you ever hope to live in a city that is not
overrun by dogs, then you must put some of your own personal issues
aside and think of the greater good of your city and community.
- Sterilization and/or capture
are the only real options for these animals. It is difficult
often times to catch the pack dogs to sterilize them. But when
they are caught, they should be sterilized and then kept in animal
shelters where they can be either trained or just kept away from
the public where they could harm people. Through mass sterilization
campaigns you will find the incidence of strays decline year after
year. Killing of dogs does not generally affect the overall population.
And random sterilization will also have little effect.
2. Educating people on
the difference between packs and solitary strays
A distinction needs to be
made between the neighborhood stray dogs and the PACKS of dogs.
the neighborhood stray dogs are usually very docile and gentle and
are only looking for attention and love. If a dog puts its
leg on you, it is wanting your attention, not wanting to hurt you.
Feeding these dogs has absolutely NO impact on whether they attack
humans or not. A well fed and well treated dog is 99% more
likely to treat ALL passerbys gently.
On the other hand, the packs
of stray dogs are dangerous and scary - even to those
of us who handle strays often. The precense of these dogs
does not depend on people giving food - in my experience
the wild dogs will not even accept food from people and run away
when approached (or bark and cause a ruckus). These dogs are very
wild, raised in packs and continue to live in packs, much like their
ancestors, the wolf. And yes, these dogs are typically located
around garbage dumps.
3. Educating people on
the ill effects of abusing animals
- the more you abuse animals,
the more aggressive and unpredictable they become
- Once an animal has recieved
constant beatings from passerbys, they tend to get shy and sometimes
aggressive when they are scared.
- Think about your own actions
- how do you react when you are scared?
4. Putting some responsibity
in the hands of local residents on "their" strays
- for example, there used
to be 12 stray dogs in my little lane of 5 buildings. They were
all sterilized many years back and now, through normal life on
the roads, there are only 2 dogs left.
This is not just an "Animal
NGO" issue. This is your issue. If you see
a liter of pups born in your neighborhood, please call your local
animal NGO and make them aware that there are new pups that need
to be sterilized. If you notice a female dog in the area that often
gives birth, again call your local group to have that dog sterilized.
YOU have to start to take responsibility for YOUR enviornment. You
cannot always sit back and blame the bad state of affairs on the
government or others. It is your responsibility as well.
On a side issue:
Furthermore, If your street
is dirty - get a collection of money from residents and hire a local
person from the slums to clean your street daily/weekly. Collect
money to put up a garbage can or several in your area.
Yes, the ideal situation
would be for the government to be doing these things, but since
they aren't you must take responsibility for your area.
And as Gandhi said:
Be the change you want to see in the world.
and my favorite
The greatness of a nation
and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are
Thanks for providing a
forum for letting people share their own thoughts and opinions.
Obviously the stray dog issue is very controversial, but with education
and information dissemination I think real progress can be made.
response 21: stray
I see that this stray
dogs is quite a big topic these days. And I also see many misconceptions
amongst the general public.
There is a rule for any living species the population will
always be a little more than the food supply available. Even
if all the stray dogs in the Mumbai municipal areas were killed
or removed, their places would be taken by dogs from the surroundings.
Killing has been tried in some municipalities and has failed
miserably for this reason. Therefore Ranjit Gadgil¹s solution
is likely to fail even though it sounds perfect. The number
of dogs is dependent on food available and not on how or if
they are removed. Even if the stray dog population did artificially
go down, the rat population would go up since the dogs feed
on rats too.
Sterilization of dogs will not dramatically reduce numbers but
will reduce the suffering from starvation and disease.
Those who really detest dogs can help reduce their numbers just
by finding ways to reduce the street garbage. In Pondicherry
they cleaned up a section of the city and the number of stray
dogs automatically reduced. This means every citizen in Mumbai
is responsible for the stray dog population.
In reference to Prachi¹s statement about sterilized dogs not
biting and Vinay¹s question regarding it there are 2 factors.
Dogs competing for a mate are more territorial and bark and
fight more. Sterilisation makes dogs calmer and they are usually
vaccinated against rabies, which makes them safer.
Before we comment on dogs being in excess and upsetting the
balance we should also look at what other species is doing the
same, even to a greater extent.
However after reading all the mails it seems that this is one
issue where everyone wants the same end goal the dog lovers
want to reduce the numbers so that the dogs don¹t suffer and
the dog haters want to reduce the numbers so that they don¹t
suffer. The dog lovers are already doing their part by doing
the sterilizations. Dog haters, please do your part.
Response 22: stray
dogs -- vinay's stray thoughts
Some random thoughts
on issues such as this stray dog one.
How would the
world be if the numbers increase or decrease?
The estimate of stray
dogs currently in Mumbai is two lakhs.
What would it be like
if the numbers were to become five or twenty lakhs?
What would it be
like if the numbers were to become five thousand or twenty thousand?
Accordingly, which seems
to be the range that is optimal or agreeable or desirable?
Accordingly, what are
the different ways to move towards those numbers?
Who should be the
ones to decide this?
People's attitudes towards
dogs would need to be identified. Also percentage of population
Here's a wild and wrong
5% -- irrational
dog lovers (presumably, the dog welfare ngo's, etc. -- the
"blinded by love" situation)
30% -- rational
dog lovers (pet owners, some of the ngo's, etc. - those who can
accept others' views)
30% -- unaffected
indifferent people (the 'don't care so long as I am not affected'
30% -- rational
dog fearers (have had or heard of a scary experience or are theoretically
5% -- irrational
dog fearers (I would like to believe there are no dog-haters)
All the arguments for
and against can be listed by the above groups. Doing
so is worthwile as it will sensitise everyone concerned but on
its own it will not lead to a conclusion as each segment will
not change its stance. One of those"necessary but not sufficient"
So on what basis can
/ should society take a decision?
- by vote? Not
really the correct way as the majority then trample on the rights
and feelings of the minority which may indeed be ethically, morally,
- by lobbying? Again
not really the correct way, as the strong can then overcome the
- through court? Maybe
ok -- the assumption being that judges will have full knowledge
of the facts and that the law can be changed, if they feel it
- through compromise?
It would be worthwhile to discuss if this is the best and if indeed
we are mature enough as a society to achieve this.
So I see the stray dogs
discussion as symptomatic of all the problems and situations
that we are facing today -- as a locality, as a city, as a country.
I am extremely keen to hear all ideas on possible solution
methods else I wonder how we can reach acceptable and practical
solutions on plastic usage, slum rehab, hawker zoning, rental
laws, land usage, etc.
A good method of
deciding a solution may also lead to good methods of implementing
Response 23: Stray
Dogs - Vinay's query
I am replying to your query on the connection between sterilisation
and dog attacks, because I believe the brunt of stray dog aggression
is borne by people like us who handle strays on a daily basis,
in slums and elsewhere. Our views are based on our experiences
with the 80,000 stray dogs we have dealt with in the past twelve
Dogs are territorial and fiercely attack other dogs who migrate
into their area. In the course of these dog fights, passing
humans are inadvertently bitten since at such times dogs easily
redirect their aggression onto others. Bitches with pups also
bite people who walk close to their litter. These are the causes
of almost ALL unprovoked dog bites.
Dogs migrate for these reasons: To mate with a female on heat,
to look for new territories as they grow up, since the ones
they are born in are defended by older dogs, and dwindling food
sources (garbage in this case) in the original area. The first
two reasons are directly related to breeding. A sterilized dog
no longer leaves his territory, and sterilized dogs don't enter
his. No more dogs being born means no more young dogs looking
for new territories. Therefore
migration-related aggression comes to an end with sterilization.
(Dwindling food sources are definitely not a problem given Mumbai's
current garbage scenario, so no migration for this reason either.)
Two other ways in which sterilization reduces dog aggression:
Bitches who have no pups to protect no longer attack people,
and male dogs after sterilization become less aggressive due
to the drop in testosterone. This is why sterilization of males
is critical for the success of any dog control programme.
We have witnessed the reduction in dog aggression and in dogs
per se in South Mumbai, where we have been sterilizing dogs
for years. In fact according to the count we carry out in the
course of annual on-site vaccinations, the dog population in
these areas(A,B,C& D wards) is around 6000.Thus there has
been a drastic fall in the stray dog population. Hence it is
hard to imagine children being mauled in any of the slums of
Colaba or Nariman Point, even if the BMC
suddenly provided incentives for dog migration by piling up
buffalo carcasses there. There simply aren't that many hungry
dogs left, and their nutritional needs are more than met by
the existing "kachra petis".
The same situation could have existed in the suburbs had we
been allowed to replicate our programme there. Strangely, the
BMC has blocked rather than encouraged the scaling up of the
programme by not granting us and other NGO's permission to construct
the additional kennels we need. We've been awaiting their NOC
for our construction plans for the last 6 years.
It should also be remembered that there is no data on the number
of children who were mauled when dog-killing was still being
practised. However, BMC figures shown to us last week reveal
a sharp drop in human rabies deaths, and also a drop in dog
bite cases since 1998. Perhaps you should ask them for a copy.
For further information, we recommend a visit to our website
: www.wsdindia.org especially
the Stray Dog issue section and the FAQ's section.
Chief Executive Officer
The Welfare Of Stray Dogs(WSD)
Adopt a street dog ! They are a breed apart!
The Welfare Of Stray Dogs(WSD) Tel:23733433/23891070
response 24: stray
dogs! not connected with loving or hating them
Two posts (both informative
and well written) by Nandita and Abodh seem to be saying the
number of stray dogs is proportional to amount of garbage (food).
hence no change in amount of garbage implies no change in number
of stray dogs.
this means that *sterilization drives will have no impact on
the number of dogs*.
sterilization reduces substantially the risk of injury or death
to humans through dog aggression.
of course stray dogs (in addition to other animals), sterilized
or not, will still cause traffic accidents that will endanger
humans as well as cause suffering to the animal.
Maybe a group poll will be illuminating
Do you consider stray dogs right now to be a "problem"?
[so basically some people may not think that there is even a
problem that needs to be dealt with. some people will get bitten
and in extreme cases will die, but that's ok. as an example,
there is no move to ban firecrackers or the kumbh mela even
though we know for a fact that a certain number of people will
get injured and will die.]
I dont think this issue hinges on being a dog-lover or a dog-hater.
Large number of stray dogs in a city is a civic problem not
a personal issue.
The stray dog problem:
What's love got to do with it?
The stray dog problem: What's love got to do with it?
I have been working with WSD since 1993 and I am responding
to Ranjit Gadgil's comment that love or hatred of dogs should
not be connected with the stray dog problem. First I wish to
say that I was bitten by a rabid animal at a time when the BMC
was still killing dogs, before I had ever heard of WSD. My love
of dogs did not make the bites less painful, the injections
less expensive or rabies less frightening.
It is perfectly correct that love of dogs should not be a factor
in solving this civic problem. However, neither should a bias
against dog-lovers be a factor . This is as irrational as the
pro-dog bias, and will cloud one's judgement as effectively.
I believe we animal welfare groups are looked at through a cloud
of clichés. Since the dog control programme was
introduced by us (by default),that, too is seen through an equally
Here are the cold facts, for unbiased readers:
· In the 1950s, 60s and 70s, the WHO (World Health Organisation)
advocated mass killing of stray dogs as the most effective way
to eradicate human rabies, since the link between canine and
human rabies was well established.
· They then reviewed the rabies situation worldwide and found
that rabies was actually on the rise. This led to a radical
departure in policy in the late 1980s.
· The WHO correctly concluded that dogs which were killed were
quickly replaced due to the sustaining factors of slums and
· It also correctly concluded that methods which work in developed
countries should not be blindly applied in developing countries,
as conditions are very different there.
· It then recommended, quite logically, that mass vaccination
rather than removal of dogs was the most effective way to eradicate
human rabies in developing countries.
· Subsequent WHO reports, including the latest, continue to
uphold this view.
· Mass vaccination campaigns in South America , Mexico and the
Carribean have been very successful, thanks to a high level
of government commitment.
· The WHO emphasizes the important role of government support
in implementing the programme.
These conclusions should be common knowledge in any responsible
civic body, individual or group seriously motivated to eradicate
human rabies. Perhaps one should conclude that such individuals
and groups do not exist.
What about canine rabies? In contrast, there are groups motivated
to eradicate this: WSD is one of them. We have taken the trouble
to find out the views of the highest healthcare authorities
and track developments in rabies control worldwide. The WHO
findings reinforced what we had already experienced in our on-site
interactions with stray dogs.
But what happens when groups like ours advocate a practical,
scientific, proven, large-scale public health programme?
It is immediately perceived as an impractical, unscientific,
small-scale animal welfare programme which deprioritizes human
beings. Because we are perceived to have an emotional flaw:
We love dogs.
Simultaneously, bureaucrats with no great knowledge of rabies
control or canine habits, sit in airconditioned offices far
removed from slums and garbage, promising a stray dog-free utopia
to be brought about by the mass killing of dogs. Their spectacular
past failure is instantly forgotten, their own admission that
killing has failed is instantly forgotten, and the fairy tale
is bought by a rational public. The only reason they are believed:
They definitely do not love dogs.
The logic escapes me. Is it actually scientific to assume that
a humane procedure is bound to be less successful than an inhumane
one? What's the connection between kindness and effectiveness?
Why is a secondary and relatively minor feature of the programme
- kindness to dogs - being given primary importance by one and
all? The objective of the earlier mass killing programme was
after all rabies eradication, not sadism. Cruelty was incidental.
Similarly, in the new rabies eradication programme, kindness
is incidental, not an end in itself.
The sterilization programme is based on the realities of canine
behaviour, human behaviour and urban conditions in a developing
country. Here is what should have happened: The programme should
have been introduced in India by municipal health departments,
or some other large state agency, with at least the budget put
into it that was earlier put into dog killing. Animal welfare
groups should then have been called in to help with the implementation.
Since this did not happen, we animal welfare NGOs - a small
and marginalized group - took it on ourselves to introduce this
scheme. We have been implementing it with funding only from
dog lovers, and have had to constantly struggle to get basic
co-operation from the civic authorities, usually through intensive
lobbying or prolonged legal battles. For instance, a High Court
order demanding municipal co-operation has been openly flouted
for the past 7 years.
No NGO can match the scale and resources of a legally elected/appointed
state body. Predictably, the programme has not been implemented
on the scale it requires, with the result that large numbers
of harried citizens are sceptical about it.
A final fact: Despite being handicapped by the lack of state
support, NGOs with the help of dog-lovers have managed to minimize
the dog nuisance in South Mumbai and to bring down the number
of human rabies deaths in the city. Please consider what we
could accomplish with state support. And as Mr Gadgil cautions
us, do leave your emotions out of it.
(I am not responding to Mr Gadgil's remarks on sterilization
having no impact on the number of stray dogs, as I believe the
topic is very thoroughly covered in our website on www.wsdindia.org
Of course if anyone has any queries after going through the
site, we will answer them.)
The Welfare Of Stray Dogs(WSD)
Adopt a street dog ! They are a breed apart!
The Welfare Of Stray Dogs(WSD) Tel:23733433/23891070
R U bogged down by Dogs ? Well, Doggone then like this...
Dear Dog Lovers and
Some technical information
below from garbageguru.
1. Very crudely
speaking, each scavenger animal is a function of Carbohydrate
band and its radical features and behaviour are accentuated
by Nitrate band.
A man be be an ordinary
man, or wear an ARMY, NAVY or AIR FORCE uniform as required.
Similarly for scavenger creatures.
Ganapathi is coming
and his VAHAN is a MOUSE. Higher nitrate will
create a rat. (Larger rats are safer than smaller
ones.) Very high nitrate, say from buried buffalow carcasses
combined with nitrate laden rain ( caused by indiscriminate
use of fossil fuel) will lead to the rats transforming into
Plague rats, in the next or next to next generation.
Again, these scavenger
creatures are the ECO POLICE of Mother NATURE, they are not
the disease carriers and its ONLY when they get sick, that
they could cause sickness inadvertently to us. If you
could just comprehend how much loving is Mother Nature, then
you will see the line of defences to the threat to us, which
is caused by us, by our misbehaviour and flouting Ecological
laws and then worship these creatures Thats why i am
setting up Mumbai's first Cockroach Mandir for Ganapathi festival. These
are the very incarnations of the Lord.
The Military may
be in the barracks but when the Commander gives an order,
they will come out and fight. The military aircraft
are not carrying bombs but in times of crisis, they are loaded,
and when the commander gives the order, they are dropped.
To demonstrate this
in terms of your own experience, let me explain. You
1. NOT SEE MOSQUITOES
2. SEE MOSQUITOES
3. Hear `singing`
4. Get bitten in
the evening during Diya time.
5. Get bitten in
the day. (Not good sign)
Instead of solving
the root cause, you light mosquito coils to drive them away.
This is akin to switching off the FIRE ALARM.
Its when these creatures
fail to control the NPN, that the bacteria and Virus sets
in. Thus, as long as creatures are VISIBLE to the eye,
there will be no disease.
We permit Spiders,
Black ants, Lizards in our homes. They clean up the
NPN so we do not get sick. How kind of them !
In SOUTH INDIA,
we do not move into a new house unless a lizard first moves
in. The tradition is there, the reason is forgotten
or known only to the Brahmins. In Singapore, where
the houses are `CLEAN` with pesticide, therefore, they had
no warning signals and the punishment awarded was DEATH.
A mother first chides
her misbehaving child with a stern face (VISIBLE MOSQUITO),
then may shout (SINGING MOSQUITO), then may slap child (BITING
MOSQUITO) Worst case is mother killing the child for
Dogs indicate acidic
PH of the garbage. If you do not want dogs to
1. Be seen, 2. bark, 3. bite then just understand
the laws of Mother Nature which are PERFECT.
Dogs come to resolve
problems created by us. Anyone can try this simple experiment.
Get fine rock dust (from stone crushing quarry) and sprinkle
on the garbage heap properly such that it gets in contact
with the food waste especially. The ROCK DUST will neutralise
the Organic PH and thus deny role to dogs. The
grit will also deter dogs.
All scavenger creatures
are a function of Non Proteinous Nitrogen, Moisture and Temperature.
This is one of the pivots of Dr. Uday Bhawalkar's PHD thesis
of 1996. Seems no one has read it yet. Then, I
have sat here for 10 years to explain this ONE graph, but
neither municipality nominees (those who can change policy)
nor the NGO groups (who advocate) ever visit for this official
education and training center of GREEN CROSS SOCIETY, c/o
Municipal Sewage Pumping Station, Opposite Indian Oil nagar,
Andheri (West), Mumbai 400 053. Phone: 26329978
Mrs. VERONICA DIAS
Dogs being visible
is 1st Digit polution.
Dogs barking is
2nd Digit polution
Dogs biting is 3rd
Dogs dying of disease
is 4th Digit pollution
Humans dying of
disease will be 5th Digit pollution.
Thus, you can clearly
see that they are the warning signs. If you dont heed
them, then you may not be alive to feel sorry.
There is also a
clear relationship between body weight of the animal, its
life span and the food it consumes. Hence, when
the larger creatures cannot consume the food, which is being
wasted then in a biofire, Mother Nature quickly sends the
bacteria and Virus (depending on conditions) Very crudely
speaking, the VIRUS is but a small `mosquito` inside the body.
If you can understand
the fire fighters triangle work, then just lock up the nitrates
(NPN) with spices and be saved. South Indians in Kerala
are blessed with Pepper since thats a high nitrate area.
The Kerala fold are known to swallow two or three pepper corns
with their food. They may not know why but I do.
Also why food there is fermented, or sprouted (This utilises
NITRATE IS FOOD
FOR PLANT, NOT FOOD FOR ANIMAL. If you ensure conversion
of wasted organics into top soil, then the scavenger creatures
will NOT multiply and there will be NO DISEASE.
When the dog is
eating nitrate poisoned food, it suffers from `NITRATE
MADNESS` This is our fault, not the dogs. We are
in a habit to blame others always.
Flies thrive in
acidic condition, but breed in alkaline conditions.
Hence, fly maggots are correcting acidity. NAPOLEON
knew this, hence he saved his soldiers from Gangrene by ordering
them not to remove fly maggots from wounds on the battlefield.
A little excreta
on the road attracts flies.
Take this excreta
and add water, put in a chamber, and you have created a factory
Take the same excreta
and add lost of water, and you have the factory for mosquitoes.
Reduce the temperature
of this water and you get.....
Vag Shantharam Shenai
(In honour of Dr.
Uday Bhawalkar PHD , I.I.T. Bombay and Chemical Engineer from
I.I.T. Bombay and his PHD guide, Dr. H.S.Shankar from Chemical
Engineering department, I.I.T. Bombay)
Vinay's views on
Someone from an animal-related
NGO felt that I should also state my views regarding stray
dogs. So here they are.
I normally refrain
from taking a position (even in my own thoughts) until I really
have to (as is the case now) as I feel I will not
remain receptive to all the viewpoints thereafter. Also
I found that when I voice my thoughts, then those opposed to
it, tend to leave the yahoo group or fall silent, which is contrary
to what any of us wants happening in this public forum.
Anyway, I am trying
to think through my views on stray dogs as I write this email.
reaction (to stray dogs, pets, any animal for that
- I don't feel the
urge to pet an animal. I am also a little worried of unpredictable
behaviour. If I am walking past a dog, I would look at
it to be prepared for unpredictable behaviour.
- My wife is very
scared of animals. She can't recall any incident to justify
it. If she is walking and spots a dog, she would widen the distance
as much as possible.
- Our daughter loves
animals. She finds stray dogs cute. If she is walking and spots
a stray dog, she will go to pet it. She is the type who would reach
into the kangaroo's pouch to pet a joey (she actually did that
in Australia as we watched petrified.) A career with the likes
of Animal Planet and she will be in seventh heaven
so if anyone has any contacts so that she can visit, please
put us in touch.
So based on an emotional
reaction, my decision would be wrong.
reaction (to dogs - strays or otherwise):
So long as stray dogs
don't keep me awake at night (which they rarely do in my area),
don't hurt anyone I know personally (which they haven't), or
kill anyone (which however did happen as reported by Stree Mukti
Sangathan), I am pro stray dogs.
Given my nature, I
am sure if this changes, I would rather not have them around.
(In small towns, I have often wondered how people manage any
sleep at all.)
reaction (to dogs or any animals):
I wouldn't be for
reaction (to stray dogs):
I had asked this in
an earlier email. There are about 2 lakh stray dogs in Mumbai.
What would be the problems if the number becomes 5 lakh dogs
or some such high number? Is it possible that by effective sterilisation, numbers
may stabilise at some acceptable level? Or, in fact, keep on
decreasing? What problems would arise if the numbers were to
decrease? Is there an eco-balance based around dogs? Is sterilisation
the only solution?
What would happen
if BMC were to succeed with a zero-garbage plan? Where
would stray dogs get their food from? Would stray dogs get adopted
as community pets? What would happen to those who don't? Would
they move out on their own? Or would they become aggressive
and hurt people and then some forcible action be have to be
taken against them?
I am more of a conceptual
type and would thus get biased in favour of the results
of studies / hypotheses that may be carried out regarding such
questions. Of course who would do such an analysis is a
moot question. Animal-welfare orgs will certainly not as it
will only dilute the current situation. Any other group
will not because there is no motivation for them to do
so. The government will not because why should they care? They
don't even care to re-deploy the 140 people who were connected
with this department who have no work and earn regular salaries
while sitting absolutely idle.
So what is likely
to happen is that some more kids will be killed and then someone
will approach the Supreme Court again and the law will get
modified. An unfortunate approach of using / misusing the
legal system that society seems to be having to take.
I think is worthwhile to pursue:
One of the responses
in the yahoo group had suggested to form a group with those
who value animal rights, along with those who understand civic
rights, and those who have deep environmental perspectives.
Such a group aided by those who can help in elaborating
what-if scenarios would be a good starting point for society
to agree to a solution. (But again, who would initiate such
I would be most comfortable
with this approach and the recommendations emanating out of such
an approach. My individual opinion to society's problems does
not matter to me.
Thanks for the opportunity
to clarify my own thoughts to myself and the patient reading.
Responses would be
Sterilization of Stray Dogs & Cats to Prevent Animal
You know there is an explosion in Mumbai of stray dogs and
cats. Dogs and cats ruthlessly attack each other in territorial
fights and end up contrating and spreading disease and go
through a inhumane life. It doesn't have to be this way. With
appropriate sterilization process we can help prevent them
from multiplying so that they won't go through so much
cruelty. The bigger problem is that everytime Animal Control
catches hold of them most of them end up being electricuted
or are put in gas chambes to die.
We can prevent this from happening by sterilizing dogs and
cats to prevent them from multiplying. There is a very scientific
way of doing this. There is an organization in Phuket Island,
Thailand which does exactly that. They have been doing this
for last 5 years and had a tremendous success. We can implement
the same process and begin a journey of eliminating animal
cruelty and prevent spread of disease and suffering for animals
that don't have the ability to communicate their challenges
to us. I encourage everyone to visit the website listed below
and e-mail me if you are interested in taking up this cause.
BMCs does not deal with stray dogs as AWOs do it
What a pertinent question. BMC won't like you anymore
for having asked this
And as for the question per se, we really would have liked
to know why BMC is not doing this. Speaking for ourselves,
I can tell you this: Myself and our Secretary have been the
non official members of the District PCA ( Prevention of Cruelty
to Animals) Managing Committee which had been formed under
the presidentship of the District Collector. The other official
members are Police Comm, SP, Municipal Comms or CEOs, Mun.
Health officers, Dy Com of District Animal Husbandry Dept
who is the standing Member Secretary, Representative of the
RTO com etc.
From the first meeting I and our Secretary in
the PCA Committee have been fighting to get the Committee
to pass a resolution to get all Municipalties to start sterilisation
in individual areas. It was one hell of a difficult task to
convince the DC himself, but I was headstrong and by the end
of the first meeting he became aware of all pros and cons
and the scientific reasons behind non killing of dogs. He
immidiately passed the resolution. We convinced the Comittee
that it was impractical to have one or two sterilisation centres
to cater to dogs from th e 4 corners of such a large district,
and the NGOs of Thane had no space to start off with the programme.The
DC immediately passed the resolution for each Mun corpn. to
start their own centres.
It was at this juncture that I personally started interacting
with the officials of the different Mun. Corporations and
goading them to have the law implemented. Soon Thane Mun.
Corpn, then Mira Road Bhayander one by one started their centres.
Kalyan Dombivili was taking a long time because of technical
delays, but they too have now started. Note that this is not
on the priority list of any Corporation's agenda, though it
should be. Most of the credit goes to the two District Collectors
who are very pro active and the present DC who believes that
animal welfare should be a top priority for any Mun. Corporation.
I make it a point to meet the officers of the different Mun.
Corpns every other week to follow up on their activity or
plans. Frankly, we are on very good terms with all of them
and they have all been very open to our suggestions.
All said and done, this is what we have done in Thane
district. It is still not an answer to your question.The NGOs
in Mumbai are doing a wonderful job, all by themselves, without
much help from the BMC. Maybe its because the Mumbai NGOs
have taken it all upon themselves that they are taken advantage
stray dogs: BMC - NGO Sector Collaboration on Cleanliness
In the cleanliness drive,AIAWA can render some help since
AIAWA is situated near the city dumping ground, (Dhobi Ghat,
Mahalaxmi E). The concerned NGO can contact AIAWA and perhaps
we can work out something positive togehter.
Another aspect that needs to be dicussed are the stray animals,
which include dogs, cats, cattle on roads and near garbage
dumps. What plan has been designed for these animals? Every
road in Mumbai have some animals loitering in search of food
and shelter. Apart from BMC,I am afraid that some NGOs also
have different ideas in dealing with these strays. Therefore
this aspect needs to be kept in mind too in the proposed claeliness
program. Though slaughter houses and tabelas have been covered,
what about the chicken shops and illegal slaughter joints
that are operational in many parts of the city. The BMC and
Police are aware of them but do nothing.
These aspects are important for any cleaning program therfore
I am drawing your attention. The on going animal birth control
program for stray dogs is a program of clearing Mumbai streets
of stray dog. But very few people understand this program.
This program has to be viewed as a health related program
and not so much an animal welfare program.
So much for now.
stray dogs have to be curbed!!
I had I think sent a plan for Dog control and I thought I
will retransmit that to you But I could not retrieve that
from the system.
However let me ask you, has the BMC totally abandoned the
dog control issue? They used to have vehicles which used to
pick up these dogs and almost on regular basis.
Secondly our honorable ministry which has professed Dog protection
should come up with solutions/suggestions for the control
of thee dogs population which has really become a menace There
are several children affected due to dog bites and have received
mental and physical harm and not to speak of the ones who
had to take then to clinic and hospitals for treatment.
There should not be any dog on the street unless it has a
owner or care taker. sorry to say but our Municipality must
re establish a section atleast for temporary period say six
month or year till the popuaalation is brought under conrol.
and then there are control measures which can be put into
People first and then the dogs should be the slogan
[1. I do not recollect receiving the email. Pl send again.
It sounds interesting.
2. Some protection from dogs is indeed needed. I hear many
3. Your concept of no stray dog however needs to be broadened
e.g. community to take care. Else it is not a nice one.
4. The slogan is highly incorrect. No planes till trains for
all, no cars till buses for all, no colleges till schools
for all, etc., will not do.
A PUBLIC ANSWER TO PV RANE ON CURBING STRAY DOGS
Mumbai: In an attempt to find a viable solution to the stray
dog menace, the BMC has drawn out an action plan to expand
its sterilisation programme from 8,000 dogs every year to
The action plan was chalked out after the
issue was raised time and again by corporators in the BMC
general body meetings. "Presently, there are only five
NGOs helping us with the sterilisation programme. We plan
to enlist the support of some more NGOs. Moreover, students
of the Parel maternity college have agreed to sterilise at
least 1,000 dogs per year,'' said additional municipal commissioner
Patankar added that the drive would be
intensified in the western suburbs where the menace is the
most. Also on the anvil are plans for a helpline which people
can contact in case they want to call for the dog van. The
BMC was killing 35,000-odd dogs every year till 1994, when
the practice was stopped after the NGOs obtained a stay from
the high court. After the HC ordered the civic body to stop
killing dogs in 1998, it roped in five NGOs to help control
the stray dog population. "Our requests to the BMC to
increase the number of NGOs have been turned down in the past.
The five NGOs have to sustain on their own resources. Unless
they provide us with adequate funds and space, there is no
way that the BMC can achieve its set target,'' said Fizah
Shah from In Defence of Dogs, one of the five NGOs working
on the sterilisation programme.
Meanwhile, corporators from different parties
are persistent in their demands that mercy killing of dogs
be allowed. Shiv Sena corporator Bala Sawant has started a
signature campaign to enlist the support of at least 3 lakh
Mumbaiites, who are in favour of killing of dogs.
Health committee chairperson Yashodhar
Phanse said during the next HC hearing on Dec 13, the BMC
will place forth its demand to allow mercy killing of dogs.
"The BMC has only nine dog vans and as per the HC guidelines
we can't have more than 10 dogs in one van. Recently, we waived
off even the nominal fee that the civic hospitals charge for
a Rs 600 worth rabies injection resulting in an added burden
of Rs 3 crore on the civic exchequer per year. The only way
out is to resume killing of stray dogs,'' said Phanse.
I am always fascinated on people who have the time and energy
to get irritated by another living species going about their
own business. Do you really think that dogs have nothing better
to do than go around biting people or irritating you?
Go to the source of the trouble and you will find it ALWAYS
the HUMAN SPECIES - Have parents taught their children to
live with other species? Have The authorities cleaned up the
food source i.e. the garbage so that it is not necessary for
dogs, rats and other scavengers to clean up OUR mess? Every
now and then it comes in the papers - Municipality to kill
dogs - I have had the same experience in my Collector's office
- Can we kill the street dogs - they asked me. Fed up with
answering the same question again and again I said Yes - do
that ,but for my report please officially give me the criteria
for this action. The Collector said then - Oh they are a nuisance
- Okay I said - But then All that are a nuisance will be killed
- Oh yes he said. At which I turned to the DSP and said -
as far as I know 96% of crimes committed in The Nilgiri District
are committed by men , is that right? So that does make them
a nuisance correct because without them we would have an immediate
of 96% in crime rates? and if I took a survey of a few
wives I am sure alot would also find their husbands who are
drunk, don't work and beat them up for fun also a nuisance,
correct so under your criteria we would have to kill off quite
a few men too. Then all would have peace and quiet.
There was a horrified silence, when I asked why the
sudden crossed legs and muttering I was told I was too radical
- Oh why I asked - When women, dogs and girl children are
a nuisance we are killed off - no one from the authorities
seems to blink an eye or move an arm to stop it but when I
say kill of the actual nuisances you are upset.
Need I say the topic was shelved for that meeting.
So let us have enough of this Kill The Dogs and get
down to tackling the real problems in life.
Also see Stray
Dogs - Recommendations to Municipal Corporations
Pro-killing stray dog
responses - anti-sterilisation
Pro-stray dog responses e.g.
Committees for stray dogs
Gandhiji's writings on
the stray dog issue, in his paper Young India
Animal Birth Control responsible
for decline in human rabies cases
WHO technical report
on rabies Seris931-part1 (PDF file)
22 - tues - meeting reg. stray dogs
Organisations - Dogs
Dog Control Rules, 2001
Population Management & Canine Rabies Control
MRTI probe into stray dog control