discussions on Fri, Oct 28, 2005, are written below briefly and
quickly. (Detailed minutes will be prepared over the
next few days and those are to be considered the final
decisions.) Please note that wherever it is written
"agreed" or "approved", it means that MCGM
is prinicipally ok with the concept. We all would have to still
prepare a detailed note for actual approval.
purpose of sending this email is because we all need to respond
quickly on certain items mentioned below. We were allowed to sit
in on the weekly SWM meeting that 30-35 BMC officials present to
Mr. Ratho, AMC, and could see that many new initiatives, rules,
guidelines, contract terms, tender terms, are underway. At our
request, deadlines for these have been extended from Oct 31 to
Nov 7 - 15 to enable NGOs to give their suggestions. The SWM
report-and-review meeting was an eye-opener for all of us here
and we were quite pleased to see BMC's serious efforts in doing
the right things in a targeted way. Several of us suggested that
the minutes of such meetings should be shared with NGOs and
others as that would benefit BMC's image.
two areas where we need to respond urgently if we wish to are:
a) BMC's new Debris Policy: Online
b) BMC's new tenders for garbage collection. We will get soon.
order below is the order of the Agenda of the meeting. The
detailed clauses are in www.karmayog.com/cleanliness/chakachak.htm .
The Clause numbers are indicated. If you sent comments in
the past regarding any of the clauses and we have forgotten to
include them, please send them again to forward to the concerned
person who will handle each area. Their names are indicated
below. If you are interested in handling any area, please
indicate. Many people would like to have co-sharers of
responsibility. Wherever I have writtten "NGOs to do",
it is basically open for anyone to respond. It also does
not mean that the onus is on the NGO sector. It is optional if
NGOs want to do that. If an NGO needs funds to do so, it can ask
you will realise from the notes below, this is now a new way of
working on civic issues. For us at Karmayog, it marks a
conclusion to our various efforts, and a beginning of a new
approach. I expect that this will be reflected in my
various comments at the end of the yahoo group emails. :-)
MCGM & NGO Sector Co-ordination: Cl
points agreed. MCGM-NGO Cleanliness Co-ord Committee set up. All
new policy changes of MCGM to be run through this committee
without obligation on MCGM to abide by the decisions. (A
historic first, I would think.) The idea is that NGO
viewpoints be heard early enough in time so as to increase the
chances of being incorporated in MCGM policies. It was agreed
that dissents between MCGM and NGOs and also of differing NGOs
would be minuted as this would be of value in future reviews,
Pl send a one-page email on any SWM aspect that you would like
to work on - indicating scope of work, time frame, and cost.
Point person: Vinay Somani.
MCGM will also pay for any papers,
projects, plans, reports, consulting
assignments, that NGOs would like to do, after due selection by
this co-ord comm.
Pl inform clearly which various SWM
themes / areas / geographical areas you are interested in being
involved. Point person: Vibha Singh, Karmayog. Henceforth,
we would like to send emails only to the concerned people rather
than to all in the Yahoo group.
Citizen Monitoring and Feedback and Action: Cl
"Cleanliness Task Force" concept approved. Budget of
Rs. 10,000 per month to be placed for approval but CTFs can
start right away if they are willing to operate without a
Pl inform if you are interested in running the CTF in your
councillor ward. Point person: Vinay Somani. Personally,
I would prefer if you are someone who can simply send an office
person (even a peon) daily around your area to list all the
locations where there is uncleared garbage. This way, it can get
done mechanically and regularly without emotions getting
involved. This makes it easier to start off. Daily reports will
be displayed on Karmayog, will be submitted to BMC at
various levels (in daily, weekly, fortnightly, monthly formats
as required). This is basically your chance to ensure that
your area is kept clean. If you choose not to get involved, I
would expect you to stop complaining via this yahoo group forum
about cleanliness problems in your area.
this stage, what is needed is one person per CTF only.
Thereafter other Citizen Group reps can be added to reach the
total of 5 in each CTF. Please note that we would like to first run
each CTF on our own without Councillor or BMC reps for a month.
Once we are clear what needs to be done by that CTF, then we
will approach the Councillor and BMC reps to join in.
"Nuisance Detector" concept: Currently only BMC
employees are NDs. It could be possible that citizens could be
sort of NDs to collect administrative charges (not fines) but
that means that they have to ensure that the area is actually
cleaned up. NGOs to do:
We need to think in detail about the ND concept.
Point person: Sudheendra
Kulkarni. BMC is willing to
send NDs with us on specific occasions, during campaigns, etc.
Home Guards: BMC willing to involve on specific occasions,
during campaigns, etc.
Continuing Education, Awareness-Raising and Training:
points agreed. NGOs to do:
NGOs to submit their interest in training stakeholders. Point
persons: Janet Geddes of CERE with Kiran Madan of Sanskar India.
They also need to compile an overall budget for BMC to
put in their budget approvals for next year. You may select any
area of stakeholders that you wish to be involved with e.g.
schools in certain areas, hawkers, etc. In fact, the more local
the area you choose, the better as that gives more effective
results. You may indicate what aspect of training you would like
to provide e.g. how to vermi-compost, environmental education,
media campaigns, etc. (I think this formal involvement where
NGOs will be involved with continuous training is also a first
of its kind. NGOs should take advantage of this to be able to
get a sustained activity and source of income for themselves.)
"Saaf Aangan" concept: Cl 20.
points agreed. NGOs
We need a detailed note on how to implement and enforce. Point
person: Madhu Sawant of 'I Clean Mumbai'. Basic
idea is that every shop and residence to keep its footpath and
road gutter clean / ensure it is kept clean.
Non-MCGM areas: Cl 20.
that joint meetings be held with Railways, MMRDA, MIDC, MPT,
etc. BMC to organise.
Demonstration Precincts for zero-garbage along with
Rotary & corporate support: Cl 2 (8)
NGOs to do:
Offer to take up areas as small as they are comfortable with. BMC
will offer full support including staff and vehicle support.
Rotary has expressed interest in taking up well-defined
projects. United Way of Mumbai has offered that various
corporates are willing to take up even entire wards. The basic
idea is here is that if various pockets of Mumbai can be cleaned
up and kept-clean, it will show the citizens that it can be done
and that BMC is serious about doing so. The learning experience
for all (BMC, NGOs, citizens) would be invaluable in framing
policy guidelines, tender documents, educational and awareness
measures, etc. (I think that this too can be a trend-setter
then discussed the actual policy decisions regarding how
different types of wastes are to be handled. (I think this
format was a very useful departure from normal discussions. i.e.
we focused first on what BMC and Citizen Sector can do together,
and then we discussed about what is to be done. This set a very
idea being that once we have agreed how to work together, then
we can resolve points of differences in due course. Normally,
all talk between BMC and NGOs and even amongst NGOs themselves
breaks down over what each considers are their 'points of
principles' itself. In my opinion, this approach of NGOs that
'first agree, then we will work together' is an approach that
leads to a break-down in discussions. I myself found this
attitude in so many people in the Cleanliness Group itself who
preferred to opt out, not attend meetings, not respond to
emails, not give their suggestions, if their view was not taken
as the 'only correct' view by the rest of the group. We all
really need to introspect on this. I can not resist adding that
our joint brainstorming led to various innovative ideas and
suggestions which BMC has also found agreeable and doable. )
Identifying locations for the various activities in
the entire waste-treatment chain: Cl 6.
to do along with BMC Officials: To
identify the following in their localities / wards as acceptable
by the nearby public:
- kiosks at near distances where building sweepers, etc., can
bring dry waste.
- common treatment areas for wet waste for households, specific
- sorting areas for ragpickers
- waste receving centres for all wastes
- sites for debris banks and to operate machines
would all have assumed that BMC can identify such areas on its
own but it can not. NGOs should do that. On a fee basis. Which
area are you willing to identify?)
Overview of Waste Management: Cl 2 and
the Flow Chart (also online):
is making bye-laws of Municipal Solid Waste rules. They will
give us a draft soon. NGOs to do:
To respond to this draft when circulated.
Wet Waste / Bio-degradables: Cl 7 &
principally agreed. Objective is that in due course all wet
waste should be composted and in-situ or at nearby locations by
waste generator or service provider or MCGM. We did not get into
all the specific points because BMC said that we should respond
upon seeing the new bye-laws that are getting framed. One point
of difference is that while BMC will pick-up the entire compost
but will not pay for compost that is more than it can itself
use. This will be discussed further.
To give detailed notes regarding how each different type of
waste-generator should treat its waste e.g. restaurant groups,
individual hotels, large complexes, food markets, hawker areas,
temples, tabelas, slaughter houses. Point Persons: Vinda
Wagh of MEDC for restaurants incl. bio-methanation, Rajul Berde
of Orchid Hotel for hotels & hospitals, Jayasimha of PETA
India for tabelas and slaughterhouses; Priya Ubale of Clean
Sweep Forum for housing societies and big complexes like clubs,
institutes; Jyoti Mhapsekar of Stree Mukti Sangathana for hawker
areas; Sudheendra Kulkarni for slums; Harshad Gandhi of Excel
Ind. for temples; Vinda Wagh of MEDC along with Harshad Gandhi
of Excel Ind. for food and flower markets.
To identify spots for bio-bins for common treatment areas.
To list the various markets throughout the city.
Dry Waste / Recyclables: Cl 9
principally agreed. i.e. Dry waste to be taken to kiosks by
waste-generators from where ragpicker co-operatives will pick
income will be through sale of the recyclables. No other
payment. BMC will not offer floor support price. (BMC does not
want to do so, ragpicker orgs also do not want it.)
to do: To
make a detailed note on how this would operate. Also on all aspects
regarding waste-pickers. Point Persons: Jyoti
Mhapsekar of Stree Mukti Sangathana, Punam Hudar or Force & Priya
Ubale of Clean Sweep Forum.
To suggest kiosk design. Point Persons: as above.
to do: To
identify spots for kiosks and for sorting areas for ragpickers. Point
Persons: as above.
To suggest how to prevent re-fillable containers getting
misused. Point Person: Dr. Kavi Arya of Chetana
To suggest how to re-cycle / re-use the different materials. Point
Person: Dr. Kavi Arya of Chetana Forum
points agreed. i.e. while segregating waste is to be mandatory,
BMC will continue to lift unsegregated waste with daily fines so
that everyone moves towards full compliance in due course. Waste
will be taken to rag-picker sorting areas for composting and
Construction & Demolition Waste: Cl
has formulated a new policy. It is online at the Cleanliness
Section of www.karmayog.com
. The last date for suggestions / objections was Oct 31. They
have agreed to hold up till Nov 10 - 15.
to do URGENTLY:
To give suggestions / objections on the draft Debris Policy of
BMC. Point Person: Bejoy Davis of YUVA.
While all materials can be recycled, it is not clear what can be
done in-situ by builders, or in small quantities at in-city
locations, with what technology and at what costs to give what
end-products. Point Person needed to explore and co-ordinate
a) To give directions to hospital to make arrangements for
b) Routing plans to be made such that bio-med waste can be
picked up from pathology labs, nursing homes, big clinics, etc.
To suggest routing plan after verifying BMC's list of path labs,
etc. Point Person: Deepika D'Souza of Mumbai Medwaste.
Waste & Landfills / Landhills:
principally agreed. Incineration will not be done.
Waste-to-electricity projects will not be undertaken. If RDF is
to be made, it will be only without burning.
To make list of non-recyclable waste. Point Persons:
Ragini Jain of Geetanjali & T. K. Bandopadhay of ICPE
(Indian Centre for Plastics & Environment)
To suggest compulsory facilities at landfills / landhills. Point
Person: Almitra Patel, Bangalore, of Supreme Court Committee
on SWM Amendments.
To make a list and to respond to BMC new bye-laws. Point
Kishore Wankhade of Toxic Links, Mumbai.
to do: To
make a detailed paper. Point Person: Jayasimha of PETA
To ban throwing anything into the sea including pooja flowers.
Specific rules for Ganesh Visarjan, etc.
discuss later as we were running out of time then. Point
Person: Sudheendra Kulkarni
put forward that integrated approach along with sanitation,
toilets is needed. It was agreed that a meeting be called along
with stakeholders, slum CSOs, and NGOs with grass-root
experiences. Point Person:
Communication via the Media
was stressed that BMC should do so and to explore ways of using
the upcoming Mumbai Festival in January also.
points in the Policy Framework Recommendations:
Cl 1, 3, 4, 5, 19, 25. 26. 27, 28, 29, 30
were not taken up as these clauses are either of an informatory
nature or not needed to be specifically discussed or not of
value to be taken up now itself.
was agreed that there should be one for a Clean Mumbai. It was
agreed to develop one jointly. By the way, BMC is aiming at 50%
reduction to landfills in 5 years while Kisanbhai is
talking of 100% reduction now. We need a common doable mission.
to do: To
give their inputs. Point Person: Sudheendra Kulkarni and
of the Point Persons that I have named above did not attend the
meeting. Nor did we specifically discuss the names earlier. So I
have taken the liberty of putting the names. If any of them want
to not be the Point Persons, please let me know. If anyone else
is interested, you are most welcome.
you can see, we had an amazing meeting which was truly
facilitated by Mr. Ratho by giving us a free hand to conduct it.
was satisfying that in one month, we all could put together a
detailed and comprehensive base document, discuss it completely
in one meeting with BMC, and take decisions on almost all issue.
A Great Beginning, I feel.
comments would be valuable as always.